WebThere have been numerous reports of scarves. These would later be some of the only clues the police had at their disposal, and the enigmatic, blurred Delphi murders video continues to haunt the internet. I remember there was a long thread (or more than one) about this when it happened. But why not arrest him, is the DNA chain of custody compromised? Like us on Facebook at www.facebook.com/TheSunUS and follow us from our main Twitter account at @TheSunUS, Baby's body found after huge search, as cops quiz Constance Marten & lover, I took pic of son, 18, before his first night out then the worst thing happened, Meg & Harry 'stunned' by King's 'cruel' Frogmore eviction 'punishment', Harry and Meghan evicted from Frogmore Cottage by King Charles after Spare memoir, News Group Newspapers Limited in England No. The pair of eighth-graders spent the afternoon posting photos of their journey on Facebook. That would be the only reason they might drag their feet. So many of the guys in that area and of that age range look like the police sketch. He said he offered to take her home and try to help, but that his stepfather overruled him. Ives says in this Dr Oz interview he hopes police will release more info. It took the panel two hours to return with a penalty of life behind bars. They also released an audio recording of a man believed to be the suspect instructing the girls to go down the hill.. It's creepy but it's not of one of the victims, R301, it's weird how so many crimes have these things that seem so incriminating, but aren't at all. I cant imagine being a parent and not knowing when your child is or what your childs last moments were like. R233 I dont think hes fat, either. LE doesn't want to call anyone a suspect only a POI (Person of Interest). (1961). Enough"? The fat Keegan Kline could have also informed other local pedos that they told KK that they would be there and KK is not the murderer, but he communicated with the murderer on the dark web / nontraceable apps. Libby's photo looks like a school picture. While specifying a bullet was found at the scene, nowhere in the document does it suggest that either of the two girls was shot. If you look at the photo, there does seem to be the outline of a gun in the right pocket of the jacket and his hands are in his pockets. There are lots of close-ups of his jacket and I see an outline of a gun in his right pocket area. That said, the writing style to me reads as a man in either law enforcement or law. Every tip received is entered into an FBI system called Pyramid. That system stores information like names, descriptions and motives so it can be cross-referenced with other tips locally and across the country to find any possible connections. There's been a lot of criticism of the police fumbling and taking forever. READ | Investigators say internet rumors can hinder search for Delphi killer. Check below for more deets about Delphi Lawrence. All that I could get my hands on. 40s? She made her first film in 1952, and, over the next decade, she established a following in British films. I cant wait to see this asshole caught and I hope he gets the short eyes treatment in jail. Seems now its all about standard Jesus-hollering Christian community dudes under suspicion. God, that is so awful. A young male student who was in the room asserted he said something to try to save the girls. It was one of precious few updates on the Delphi murders since the initial investigation. One possibility: The weapon, if there was one, has been determined to be something unusual, so they're waiting for that to show up in a tip. A coroner decided there were no suspicious circumstances surrounding the Thats why they were killed in such a brutal way. Please complete the process by verifying your email address. I still think he meant to abduct them but they messed up his plans by running and he had to recapture them. If someone murdered my kid, I would be desperate too. That little girl was only 9 years old. At this point i think they should release more footage from the vid/recording as I think it would help given they obviously have zilch in terms of evidence. There is a rumor told by locals that one of the girls was pregnant. A. The guys and down the hill are in order, according to one of the parents/grandparents who listened to the recording and were interviewed on a podcast. They don't have a clue who the real killer is. He may have been interupted before he could finish whatever he had planned or felt in danger of getting caught out. I posted at R413. Somebody out there knows who this person is. Again, after studying serial killers for decades I believe he was unknown to the girls. Shirley Stewart, Fulham and Hammersmith Coroner's officer, said: "There will He's most likely a phony. have we confirmed this guy was into hunting and/or fishing? They have no evidence to tie this guy on audio or the video other than snippets of poor quality. R225 I was once a teen girl and yes you do walk just to walk sometimes. That little girl came as close to death as is possible without dying. Once the family said they dont think it was this guy it solidified it. Knives, guns, ect. If you see something that doesnt look right, Contact Us. Kids are also social media minded and the bridge and the view made for good photos. Hope to hell I am wrong. When LE speaks of a religious aspect to the poses, I think it could be that Libby was posed to look like she had been crucified with blood coming from her hands and the from the wound that the stake made in her abdomen. Why could they be the suspect. They withheld too much info and ended up with thousands of fruitless leads. If that is true (and I dont know if it is true) AND he has a tattoo with eyes that are bleeding.that seems like too much of a coincidence. There were some very iffy pics that the person claimed was one one the victims. Did anyone see the picture of a man with a standing next to a vehicle that matched a witness report? That might also explain why they would keep some of the recordings from the public. Then you've got to go an search for the story. It's this Chadwell dude to a "T". Although the audio may appear to be a different voice, Indiana State Police were clear when they released it that the extended clip was all the same person. I decided I was going to take the riverbank going back, I didnt. i would think there would be some DNA or something from crime scene. I agree with the OP too, it's horrible that what should be a great place with a great pasttime for kids should be ruined like that. They have not released any pictures of the Delphi murders scene. But the news reports did not reach the victims younger brother, Dwayne Lawrence. Durnell said he pressed Garnett, in a direct but composed manner, not threatening. In the two years since Libby and Abby were murdered, the evidence released to the public has remained minimal. This case has literally haunted me. Did this have something to do with the murders? Just like serial killers of women, they have a "type" . She was almost beheaded. [The videos] help us know that people dont know [the true details], because the facts havent been released, Holeman said. Do you recognize the mannerisms as being someone that you might know?. Recent long list of Tobe answering questions. Per CNN, Delphi police announced that they To say I have follow this case is an understatement. R14 During one of the press conferences a couple of years ago, the police stated that they had someone in mind and they were probably watching the press conference at that moment, they went onto say that the culprit would slip up and they had almost certainly told someone something about the murders and that person would come forward eventually. He took and killed both girls, but he only wanted one of them The eyes on the tattoo are telling. What a sick motherfucker this one is. It could explain why Liberty was left undressed (to shame her and the family) and the other girl wasnt (collateral damage). Electrocute his sick, sadistic, sorry ass. I wish I wouldn't have watched the video she recorded before bed. causes.". If they don't have solid DNA evidence or similar which I'm assuming they don't, given that they can't rule this guy in or out, it could be very hard to prove who killed the girls. His wife Cantor Cathy Lawrence confirmed the news to The Hollywood Reporter but did not specify a cause of death at the time. I often think of this poor kid and wonder if he is okay. It should have been an OK thing to do. Stay away from places like this. R503 Definitely. She is not dating anyone. Later in Part II, they show video footage of a press conference held with the sheriff positioned behind the officer leading the conference. Diabolical. It's hard to believe the DNA found under Libbys nails has yielded nothing. That Reddit thread I posted is really heating up. I want that monster to pay for this. Weight ages you. WebDELPHI, Ind. R383, It was Libby's older sister, Kelsi, who agreed to it. A witness came forward and described a car parked in a small lot near one of the trail exits for a few hours on the day of the murder. license plate, year, make, model, color). Libby German and Abby Williams were murdered in Delphi, Indiana on Feb. 13, 2017. I just hope LE has enough evidence against him for a conviction. I only found about the questions after the noon deadline but not sure what I would ask. The only thing I can think of is that he was comparing body to body three unusual things done to/with each body. These girls owed drug miney? I really hope so. only psychoes believe what he "makes up". don't in any way contradict the date of the murders. The second sketch is extremely amateurish compared to the first, but essentially, the guy has a bulbous nose and thin lips. I'd be nervous and careful walking over this bridge. The window was right next to the door, the only light coming into the room. We dont know.. Praying for justice for the victim and families. Idk why. I mentioned it on that thread. It just doesnt sound right. Making it look like a random murder / sex / pedophile crime would make sense to muddy their motive. She got up and pushed at him, and he grabbed her by the throat. The Her head was placed on a mantle, looking down at her body. If its PB what an arrogant fuck, showing up to search and to the press conference. Thanks for proving why we should NOT have the death penalty, r194, the difference is that Lam wasn't even murdered, while these girls clearly were. The audio was part of a video file taken from Liberty's cell phone shortly before her death. I don't think enforcers usually kill children. "That young lady is a hero, that is no doubt, Indiana State Police Sgt. This is why I question that persons credibility. R276-- Meant to say that I have no doubt he would have murdered her if he hadn't been caught. The cops are probably not going to feed her all their information just in case. Sadistic beyond words. This killer sounds like he has a remarkably similar MO. Someone dropped them off there too, so whoever did was obviously ok with them walking across a rickety, corroding bridge alone. Glad Im not on Facebook. Something not a lot of people get is that the man in the video was walking like an old guy because it was a fairly dangerous bridge with rotting wood, so you'd have to carefully step on each plank and make sure it wasn't a rotted one too. I remember doing all kinds of dangerous stupid shit as a teenager. She saw the video and confirms a bit. The people who are obsessed with this case (perhaps not ALL of you here on DL) remind me of those nuts in the Hotel Cecil Elisa Lam documentary r193, so we should only execute the ones who personally piss you off? Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Everything is a guess. WebJust to remind you guys, that the 'cause of death' is not the same as the 'mode of death'. Thank you for the updates. He lured the 9 year old girl into his house by asking if she wanted to play with his dogs. R110 I think that's the point. She was a veteran of the Royal Variety Performance and was commissioned for a I think justice would be to lock him in a room with some of the townspeople and let them at him. In 1966, she moved to the United States where she began to appear in films and television, and settled there. I would like to know why the Georgia Bureau of Investigation was called in to help with this. They have video, audio, and they should have dna of the killer, yet this case has been unsolved for nearly three years. The scarves seem like a true report as Ive seen it over and over. There is a large meat plant in the area. I know it's just a couple of words, but it fucking chills me to the bone. Has there been a profile of him by the FBI? Learn How rich is She in this year and how She spends money? I used to regularly take my family dog out for a walk in a wooded area near my house when I was a teen, it wasn't a popular area but every so often I'd cross paths with someone and even as a well built teenage guy with a german shepherd I felt vulnerable, so I can only imagine how those girls must have felt in their final moments. McCauley, in her stories, noted the presence of the victims parents in the courtroom. r466, r446 said "this weirdo" reset his phone the day of the murders. It looks terrifying even without the psycho killer lurking. Investigators worked up a composite sketch of the man in the photo. Evidently the Leigh Kerr AMA convinced a family member to demand more information, according to a poster on this thread. R414, you dont think that the police are keeping the family informed? At the time, the suspect was described as a white man between 5-feet 6-inches tall and 5-feet 10-inches tall, weighing 180 to 220 pounds with reddish brown hair and an unknown eye color. One theory that keeps floating around, on discussion threads: Libby's dad is a known druggie. Aargh at first I knew lots . now who are all these names & initials?! R81 might hold the clue. The voice is that of a man at least 50 yrs old. Police did not elaborate as to specifically why police believe the account may be tied to the murders of Abby and Liberty. Delphi Lawrences hobbies are Reading, photography, learning, traveling, internet surfing and to name a few. Chadwell's more in shape. How many podcasts and investigative TV miniseries has it generated with, basically, no new information or new investigative leads? I have read they were sexually assaulted and that they werent. R22 I believe he is connected, he's definitely killed before and knew that trail. The following are some of the more famous murderers and how long it took police to catch them: Golden State Killer, James DeAngelo: 32 years, Green River Killer, Gary Ridgway: 19 years, John Cooper, Pembrokeshire Murders: 25 years. R462 That was the fat pedo's reset of his phone. Not even close. Or would a VPN work to hide it? Delphi Lawrence (23 March 1932 11 April 2002) was an English actress. If they know who it is, that name would get out. Did anything they said at either of the latest press conferences seem to fit with that theory? I bet those residents are furious and if they knew the name of a local guy, someone would go for him. He did not take answers during or after the press conference, however his remarks at the time seemed to indicate that cops believed they were close to zeroing in on the suspect. They are also asking years later about whether anyone saw a car in a nearby parking lot. Very interesting. [bold]He doesn't have to be from the area.[/bold]. Some people are suspecting his creepy dad and the pressure on him is to turn his dad in. Why are people so literal-minded? Ever since the drama with "verifying" the guy who goes by Leigh Kerr on the subreddit, he's completely disappeared, right? But posting inside a thread is okay, unless it's one of their delusional political stories. Previously, police could only collect samples from those suspects who were convicted of a felony in the state. Just let us hear it. Police released the images they say were taken straight from Libbys cell phone, on Feb. 15, 2017 the day after the girls bodies were found. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. One thing that has always stayed with me (either by reading Libby's grandmother's account of it or hearing Libby say it on a social media video) is that Libby was upset that her phone had to be reset to the factory settings and she lost photos stored in her phone. Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby has been working the Delphi Murders case for four years. The context surrounding the images, which were stills from a moving video, has never been given. The guy is a creep. It appears LE is going with the son covering for the dad. He has stuffed his clothing, pockets. What about Gabriel Ellis or Kurt Fouts (caught with an escort who said that judge Fouts was part of a sex club run by men who abuse girls in 2017).? There is speculation about 2 men in a white rental car with phony paper license plates that were spotted near the bridge. Therein lies the problem, r415they must not have any DNA evidence. Initially trained as a concert pianist. Based on comments at r214 u-tube link, sounds like dudes theory is at least interesting . but the narrator is way too slow. R96 I thought the SAME thing and then felt guilty for it! Like someone claiming to be a 13 yr old boy online and then a man shows up?? Credit: Tippecanoe County Sheriff's Dept. Per Leigh Kerr, the signatures included hair missing from both girls and their bodies posed in a relgious but also sexual way. Chadwell is not the first person accused of an abduction crime who has been investigated as a person of interest in the Delphi murders. Libby was posting to Snapchat, so they had a good signal. "True Crime Jesus" on Youtube has convincing videos about different POIs. The teens took a walk down some historic, wooded trails on the east side of town, and ended up stepping onto the old Monon High railroad bridge. I think bridge guy could be of that build - and I've never bought that he was old. Holes, the retired homicide investigator, also said the app could prove helpful, as perhaps the closest thing the public has to more photos of the Delphi killings. February 13, 2017. If they have someone who is 90% a good candidate for killer, I just have him "suicide.". She wasn't there, and she doesn't know. So, it was really, really important. Hope we have answers soon. One of the cellphone pictures from the Delphi murders depicts the suspect walking down the railroad bridge toward Abby Williams and Libby German. The central piece of evidence that police had secured was a statement from Garnett in which he told them that he had, indeed, committed the murder. They said that Bridge Guy seen in Libby's video we've seen isn't necessarily the man who said, "Down the hill, guys", In the audio after the portion that we've seen and heard, there is more that we haven't seen & heard - Libby asks Abby if the creepy guy is still there. And R364, you're an asshole. It would take a full thread to note some things that have been released by law enforcement. I have no idea if it is but the photo side by side with Bridge Guy is compelling. It was emphasized that the police department felt like the perpetrator was present at the briefing. Hello and thank you for registering. We can only guess. He actually does look like a blend of both. The key evidence in the case has been video taken by Libby, likely in the moments before her death. That is a great point about calling 911. Maybe it's a cop and that's why they are being so reticent. They can see it in another. I thought that there was no sexual assault? It's like those paedophile hunters who try and entrap pervs who the cops may already be monitoring. We know how the girls died. Kim Riley with the Indiana State Police. On the favorite mystery thread, a poster mentioned the Delphi Murders and I looked them up. He wasn't speaking extemporaneously; he read it from notes. Discover Delphi Lawrence's Biography, Age, Height, Physical Stats, Dating/Affairs, Family and career updates. I found the Facebook page for KS. ENOUGH. Or not. Here is a local news broadcast showing the computer simulation of the bridge. According to Kline, he exchanged messages with more than a dozen underage girls and received pictures from them. In January 2021, the creators of a smartphone app called CrimeDoor provided a unique and eerie look at the fateful day Abby and Libby encountered their killer in Delphi, Indiana. He went out the door and that was it. Lawrence says he has begun asking questions about his sisters murder and the case against Garnett in order to learn the truth about what happened after so many years of being kept in the dark about the matter. Birthday: March 23, 1926 Date of Death: People watch the news and think they are picking up on things, but its false. possible exit route of the killer(s)? ( R42) I think she hid the phone in her pocket. Abigail Williams and Liberty German went missing while walking on a trail near the Monon High Bridge in Delphi on Feb. 13, 2017. What we know about the notorious Delphi murders as man charged with killings. The picture looks pretty similar to the sketch. The True Crime Garage podcast just dropped a 3 part episode all focused on one person of Interest. I wasn't talking about Libby's phone's reset and I don't know anything about it. You can also use the following email to report directly: Delphi Lawrence - Wiki, Age, Biography, Trivia | FilmiFeed. He will kill again, probably in another state. As described in the news stories about his trial by the late Daily Local reporter and editor Shirley McCauley, the case against Garnett was largely circumstantial. The name means leaker.. Delphi Lawrence fathers name is N/A and Delphi Lawrence mothers name is N/A. This presumed lack of DNA is one reason why people believe the girls weren't sexually assaulted. The child had bite marks from his pitbull. What is interesting is that evidently the Facebook poster used a dummy account posing as a woman to answer the questions and then slipped up and used his real account to answer one question. One potential key piece of evidence in the case was released by police within days of the killings, showing two grainy photos of a hat-wearing suspect walking on the abandoned railroad bridge the girls had visited. Way back the theory was - one of the girls (A?) It was only about a minute long and he just said he didn't do it. There's also differing tales on the recording. Delphi Lawrence died at the age of 70 years. He does fit so well. My conclusion is still that these people were way too obese, way too short-legged, way too short, way too fat-faced, or way too skinny in 2017 to be BG - whether OBG sketch or YBG sketch. In February 2017, they were about halfway through the eighth grade and had a day off from school in their small town of Delphi, Indiana. The girls' causes of death have never been disclosed and their killer has never been found. The photos at the link found in R93's thread aren't useful at all, but the info about the two white Dodge Darts is pretty interesting. Time outside, smoking, drinking have an effect. Leigh is both a male and female name, so no, hes not posing as a woman. during the one-year press conference marking the Delphi murders, Investigators say internet rumors can hinder search for Delphi killer, Physical Description (i.e. Knife kit, imo. Maybe I met him at Dairy Queen or the gas station.". The police later identified his car in other snatch-and-grab kills of opportunity. Thanks R5 I did search and didnt find anything. Let's seeon one hand, this guy was found with a 9 year old girl chained up in his basement, having been kidnapped, sexually molested and beaten. I dont feel strongly one way or the other, but I dont think its a certainty that they or someone close to them didnt know him. While I understand the video makes it look like an older man, as others have indicated the bridge has very large gaps. LOL! Because why else would anybody pretend to be CERTAIN it's not him? It is very difficult to study this case. In that tread it said that the girls had spotted him earlier and he creeped them out. To this day, he says between 6-8 people work on Libby and Abbys case each day throughout the week. He knew what he was going to say before he said it.. Before the murders, Libby had her aunt do a factory reset of her phone (Libby's phone) because it was acting up. So let's not get personal over this, ok? R286 How did they say that? No? Can we link to Reddit on here? I think that guy (who has obviously gained a lot of weight since some of them were taken) could very easily be the killer. I hope this is the guy so there can be closure. R68 my assumption would be that it was as simple as she fought him more. Look at his left ear in the photo and the left ear of the first sketch. Meat packing plant worker?) HLN is doing a 2 part series on the Delphi girls on Feb 14 and 15. This development, if you can call it that, seems desperate. She also played Mrs Johnson, the leading role in Willy Russell's Blood Brothers, for four years at London's Phoenix Theatre. Such a mystery, this crime. Some of you have been reading too much smutty crime fiction. I think it was a stranger. In the 1970s-1980s, there was a serial killer in Connecticut, never caught. She was nominated for a 1974 Joseph Jefferson Award for Best Actress in a Principal Role for her performance in "Separate Tables", at the Ivanhoe Theatre in Chicago, Illinois. Or something like that. While police continue their search for the Delphi killer, people across the country have been coming up with their own theories about who is responsible. I think the best bet is to keep watching the video and listening to the audio. She died 12 years later, in 2002, aged 70, from undisclosed causes. A teenage boy said that a guy who looks like Bridge Guy was sitting on a bench near another bridge in the same park but on another day, asked him for money and got mad and pushy when the teen said "No.". Investigators say the person used the profile to communicate with underage girls to solicit nude images, get their addresses and try to meet with them. The killer could have worn gloves. Anyone remember the Gainesville Ripper? Its been four years and despite the evidence one of the victims was able to leave, the case has not been solved. I discovered this whilst setting my PVR. According to officials at the county Clerk of Courts Office, two boxes of evidence from Garnetts trial are still being held in storage. In the past three years, only one person of interest has ever been named. R50 I saw those images but cant make them out. Anyway this theory fit well with a number of factors: - unconfirmed rumor that A was gored through the abdomen - effectively confirmed rumor that other girl L had injuries consistent with fighting back, raising Q of why if one fought back, the other was targeted for (abdominal) brutalization - killed to end feared pregnancy story at least provides a motive for targeting apparently innocent kids no need to invent crazy stories like someone looking to collect a drug debt made his first approach by brutally murdering the debtors uninvolved child & her even-less involved friend in broad daylight in public - motive of ending an unwanted pregnancy could be viewed as reasonable enough by a boys parents (if they are deplorable shitheads) that they might help make arrangements before or after etc , which ties into: - unconfirmed stories / speculation that the girls mightve meant to meet up with someone at bridge, even though they didnt seem to recognize the pos they encountered. 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