I have, before, been, tricked into believing And I am so thrilled to have this conversation with Ada Limn to be part of our first season. But he is driven by passionate callings older and deeper than his public vocation as an actor and comedian. They bring our nervous system and heartbeat and breath into sync and even into sync with other bodies around us. And I feel like the thing that always kept coming back to me, especially in the early days was, What does it do? Well right now it anchors you to the world again and again and again. So I love it when I feel like the conversations Im having start to be in conversation with each other. , and its a villanelle, so its got a very strict rhyme scheme. but witnessed. I was actually born at home. In all kinds of lives, in all kinds of places, they are healers and social creatives. the collar, constriction of living. Limn: And then Ill say this, that the Library of Congress, theyre amazing, and the Librarian of Congress, Dr. Carla Hayden, had me read this poem, so. I have decided that Im here in this world to be moved by love and [to] let myself be moved by beauty. Which is such a wonderful mission statement. The On Being Project is located on Dakota land. The phrase mental health itself makes less and less sense in light of the wild interactivity we can now see between what weve falsely compartmentalized as physical, emotional, mental, even spiritual. Yeah. you look back and beg joy, foundational, that brief kinship of hold And you mentioned that when you wrote this, when was it that you wrote it? Its a prose poem. I was so fascinated when I read the earlier poem. Limn: That you can be joyful and you can actually be really having a wonderful time. A season of big, new, beautiful On Being conversations is here. Thats really hard. Theres also how I stand in the field across from the street, thats another way because Im farther from people and therefore more likely to be alone. Right now we are in a fast river together every day there are changes that seemed unimaginable until they occurred. adrienne maree brown and others use many words and phrases to describe what she does, and who she is: A student of complexity. No shoes and a glossy I could be both an I the pummeling of youth. And then in this moment it was we cared for each other by being apart. And it was this moment of like, Oh, this is abundance. Ada Limn is the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. At human pace, they are enlivening the world that they can see and touch. What if we stood up with our synapses and flesh and said. Wisdom Practices and Digital Retreats (Coming in 2023). as you said, to give instruction or answers, where to give answers would be to disrespect the gravity of the questions. the collar, constriction of living. Thank you all for coming. Sometimes it sounds, sometimes its image, sometimes its a note from a friend with the word lover. I think coming back to this idea that poetry is as embodied as it is linguistic. So I think there was a lot of, not only was it music, but then it was music in Spanish. A student of change and of how groups change together. Yeah. Enough of osseous and chickadee and sunflower. Adventures into what can replenish and orient us in this wild ride of a time to be alive: biomimicry and the science of awe; spiritual contrarianism and social creativity; pause and poetry and more towards stretching into this world ahead with dignity . , there are these two poems on facing pages, that both have fire in the title. People will ask me a lot about my process and it is, like I said, silence. until every part of it is run through with Tippett: I also think aging is underrated. After almost 20 years on public radio at the helm of her award-winning show On Being, Krista Tippett is transitioning the weekly program to a seasonal podcast.. Tippett said that the On Being Project, her nonprofit organization that produces the show, began seeing itself a few years ago "as a media and public life organization and to figure out what it means to be that. Yeah. Amanda Ripley began her life as a journalist covering crime, disaster, and terrorism. And then a trauma of the pandemic was that our breathing became a danger to strangers and beloveds. I never go there very much anymore. Unknown. On Being with Krista Tippett | 5 minute podcast summaries on Apple . And there are times where I think people have said as a child, Oh, you come from a broken home. And I remember thinking, Its not broken, its just bigger. She hosted On Being on the radio for about two decades. We value the ancient power of storytelling, and we get that good stories require conflict, characters and scene. Wisdom Practices and Digital Retreats (Coming in 2023). On Being is an independent nonprofit production of The On Being Project. This is not a problem. has lost everything, when its not a weapon, when it flickers, when it folds up so perfectly, you can keep it until its needed, until you can, love it again, until the song in your mouth feels, like sustenance, a song where the notes are sung. What. The fear response, the stress response, it had so many other kinds of ripple effects that were so perplexing. Tippett: A lot of them are in the On Being studio, they come in the mail. Before the road And they would say, I dont want to go to yoga. And I was like, Why? And they said, I just dont want anyone telling me when to breathe. [laughter] But its true. enough of the animal saving me, enough of the high And so thats really a lot of how I was raised. Our younger listeners have asked to hear adrienne maree browns voice on On Being, and here she is, as we enter our own time of evolution. It just offers more questions. How am I? You could really go to some deep places if you really interrogated the self. To love harder? Yeah. This is not a problem. that sounds like someones rough fingers weaving Limn: Yeah. I am asking you to touch me. Like, Oh, take a deep breath. Then we get annoyed when it works, too. I would say about 50 percent, maybe 60 percent of it was written during the pandemic. And: advance invitations and news on all things On Being, of course. I grew up in Glen Ellen in Sonoma, California, born and raised. And one of them this is also on. I am too used to nostalgia now, a sweet escape. This poem is featured in Ada's On Being conversation with Krista, "To Be Made Whole.". And it sounds like thunder? You ever think you could cry so hard I feel like theres so many elements to that discovery. So it was always this level in which what was being created and made as he was in my life was always musical. Poems all come to me differently. Listen Download Transcript. And I think there was a part of me that felt like so much of what I had read up until then was meant to instruct or was meant to offer wisdom. We envision a world that is more fluent in its own humanity and thus able to rise to the great challenges and promise of this century. hoping our team wins. squeal with the idea of blissful release, oh lover, chaotic track. and the one that is so relieved to finally be home. people could point to us with the arrows they make in their minds. So its a very special place. I have a lot of poems that basically are that. to the field, something to get through before And you have said that you fell in love with poetry in high school. Limn: And I love it, but I think that you go to it, as a poet, in an awareness of not only its limitations and its failures, but also very curious about where you can push it in order to make it into a new thing. And even as it relieves us of the need to sum everything up. Between the ground and the feast is where I live now. That really spoke to me, on my sofa. All of this, as Dacher sees it now, led him deeper and deeper into investigating the primary experience of awe in human life moments when we have a sense of wonder, an experience of mystery, that transcends our understanding. Limn: Yeah. If you had thought about it And you said that this would be the poem that would mean that you would never be Poet Laureate. Cracking time open, seeing its true manifold nature, expands a sense of the possible in the here and the now. and snowshoes, maple and seeds, samara and shoot, Limn: Yeah. And I think for all of us, kind of mark this, which is important. And that is so much more present with us all the time. Limn: Oh, thank you. You will hear the voices of wise and graceful lives of former guests, and of listeners from far-flung places. I love it that youre already thinking that. And I think for all of us, kind of mark this, which is important. And it says, You are here. And I felt like every day Id write a poem was literally putting that little, You are here dot on a map. I wrote it and then I immediately sent it to an editor whos a friend of mine and said, I dont know if you want this. And it was up the next day on the website. Because how do we care for one another? It makes room for all of these things that can also be It holds all the truths at once too. Also: Kristin Brogdon, Lindsey Siders, Brad Kern, John Marks, Emery Snow and the entire staff at both Northrop and the Ted Mann Concert Hall of the University of Minnesota. So it was always this level in which what was being created and made as he was in my life was always musical. And if I had to condense you as a poet into a couple of words, I actually think youre about and these are words you use also wholeness and balance. what a word, what a world, this gray waiting. No, really I was. And I think about that all the time. This idea of original belonging, that we are home, that we have enough, that we are enough. I feel like that between space, that liminal space, is a place where we were living for so long, and many of us still living in that between space of, How do I go into the world safely, and how do I move through the world with safety and care-take myself and care-take others. We want to rise to what is beautiful and life-giving. that thered be nothing left in you, like [laughter] Where some of you were like, Eww, as soon as I said it. I will trust the world and I will feel at peace. And this time, what came to me as I stood and looked at the trees was that Oh, it isnt just me looking. Find more of her poems, along with our full collection of poetry films and readings from two decades of the show, at Experience Poetry. When you find a song or you find something and you think, This. Page 20. I am a hearth of spiders these days: a nest of trying. As . Copyright 2023. We read for sense. With an unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief this conversation holds not only what we have traversed these last years, but how we live forward. We offer it here as an audio experience, and we think you will enjoy being in . In between my tasks, I find a dead fledgling, A friend, lover, come back to the five-and-dime. Becoming whole, she teaches, is not about eradicating our wounds and weaknesses; rather, the way we deal with losses, large and small, shapes our capacity to be present to all of our experiences. When I lived in New York City, my two best friends, I would always try to get them to go to yoga with me. And that there was this break when we moved from pictographic language, which is characters which directly refer to the things spoken, and when we moved to the phonetic alphabet. Before the ceramics in the garbage. And I knew immediately that it was a love poem and a loss poem. Tippett: And when you say I know one shouldnt take poems apart like this, but The thesis is the river. What does that mean? I have your books, and theres some, too. the trash, the rolling containers a song of suburban thunder. But mostly were forgetting were dead stars too, my mouth is full I almost think that this poem could be used as a meditation. is the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. And it feels important to me whenever Im in a room right now and I havent been in that many rooms with this many people sitting close together that we all just acknowledge that even if we all this exact same configuration of human beings had sat in this exact room in February 2020, and were back now, were changed at a cellular level. the world walking in, ready to be ravaged, open for business. I think I trusted its unknowing and its mystery in a way that I distrusted maybe other forms of writing up until then. When you find a song or you find something and you think, This. I feel like the short poem, maybe read that one, the After the Fire poem is such a wonderful example of so much of what weve been talking about, how poetry can speak to something that is impossible to speak about. Many have turned to David Whyte for his gorgeous, life-giving poetry and his wisdom at the interplay of theology, psychology, and leadership his insistence on the power of a beautiful question and of everyday words amidst the drama of work as well as the drama of life. And so I have. We nurture virtues that build muscle memory towards sustained new realities including generous listening, embodied presence, and transformative relationship across backgrounds and lived experience. water, enough sorrow, enough of the air and its ease, A friend Just back to this idea that there is this organic automatically breathing thing of which were part, and that we even have to rediscover that. But its also a land that is really incredibly beautiful and special and sacred in a lot of different ways. And I think when were talking about this, were talking about who we are right now, because were all carrying this. Tippett: Okay. I think there was also he also was a singer, so he would just sing. Because how do we care for one another? At human pace, they are enlivening the world that they can see and touch. The thesis has never been exile. and over against the ground, sometimes. And I think most poets are drawn to that because it feels like what were always trying to do is say something that cant always entirely be said, even in the poem, even in the completed poem. Yeah. Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. "On Being," a weekly interview show about the mysteries of human existence, hosted by Krista Tippett, airs on nearly 400 public radio stations, with more than half a million weekly listeners . And actually, it seemed to me that your marriage was in fine shape. I feel like it brings us back to wholeness somehow. Its still the elements. For me, I have pain, so Ive moved through the body in pain. Then three years later, Tippett left American Public Media to create her own production company, Krista Tippett Public Productions, which has aligned with WNYC/New York Public Radio to distribute the show to affiliates nationwide. rolling their trash bins out, after all of this is over? My familys all in California. Suppose its easy to slip At a special TEDPrize@UN, journalist Krista Tippett deconstructs the meaning of compassion through several moving stories, and proposes a new, more attainable definition for the word. Shes written six books of poetry, most recently, The Hurting Kind. Why did I never see it for what it was: Limn: Yeah. Tippett: Thats so wonderful. Limn: I remember having this experience I was sort of very deeply alone during the early days of the pandemic when my husbands work brought him to another state. [laughter]. Theres daytime silent when I stare, and nighttime silent when I do things. [Music: Seven League Boots by Zo Keating]. Tippett: Were back at the natural world of metaphors and belonging. The conversation that resulted with the Jewish-Buddhist teacher and psychotherapist Sylvia Boorstein has been a companion to her and to many from that day forward. And it often falls apart from me. And I think Id just like to end with a few more poems. And poetry, and poetry. Krista Tippett is Peabody Award-winning broadcaster and New York Times best-selling author. I think there were these moments that that quietness, that aloneness, that solitude, that as hard as they were, I think hopefully weve learned some lessons from that. For her voice of insistent honesty and wholeness and wisdom and joyfulness. So its actually about fostering yourself in the sun, in the right place, creating the right habitat. Adventures into what can replenish and orient us in this wild ride of a time to be alive: biomimicry and the science of awe; spiritual contrarianism and social creativity; pause and poetry and more towards stretching into this world ahead with dignity . Tune in now. Theres how I stand in the lawn, thats one way. Tippett: Just back to this idea that there is this organic automatically breathing thing of which were part, and that we even have to rediscover that. Adventures into what can replenish and orient us in this wild ride of a time to be alive: biomimicry and the science of awe; spiritual contrarianism and social creativity; pause and poetry and more towards stretching into this world ahead with dignity, wisdom and joy. They bring us together with others, again and again. Join these two friends and interpreters of the human condition for . The On Being Project is located on Dakota land. And the last voice that you hear singing at the end of our show is Cameron Kinghorn. Krista Tippett, Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and Art of Living. And its page six of The Hurting Kind. What happens after we die? And she says, Well, you die, and you get to be part of the Earth, and you get to be part of what happens next. And it was just a very sort of matter-of-fact way of looking at the world. In fact, Krista interviewed the wise and wonderful Ocean Vuong right on the cusp of that turning, in March 2020, in a joyful and crowded room full of podcasters in Brooklyn. Our lovely theme music is provided and composed by Zo Keating. Few books have been more eagerly passed from hand to hand with delight in these last years than Robin Wall Kimmerers Braiding Sweetgrass. we never sing, the third that mentions no refuge but I was loved each place. Tippett: Which also makes it spiritual practice. And I was having this moment where I kept being like, Well, if I just deeply look at the world like I do, as poets do, I will feel a sense of belonging. It brings us back to something your grandmother was right about, for reasons she would never have imagined: you are what you eat. And it is definitely wine country and all of the things that go along with that. But something I started thinking, with this frame, really, this sense of homecoming and our belonging in the natural world runs all the way through every single one of your poems. Jen Bailey, and so many of you. Page 87. We keep forgetting about Antlia, Centaurus, But mostly were forgetting were dead stars too, my mouth is full, of dust and I wish to reclaim the rising, to lean in the spotlight of streetlight with you, toward. Before the dogs chain. wind? So the poem you wrote, Joint Custody. You get asked to read it. Or, Im suffering, or Right. Its the thing that keeps us alive. Silence, which we dont get enough of. what a word, what a world, this gray waiting. I have people who ask me, How do you write poems? And you talk about process. 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