I have a Stoeger Coach gun but not a Supreme. Ive shot skeet with it. Features and Benefits. Recover the sight, realign on the target or the next target, and fire the shotgun using the second barrel. With the correct ammo, I could also use the coach gun to hunt everything that walks or flies in the state of Arkansas. Its a nice shotgun with none of the problems you describe or any others. Seems very solid. Jun 18, 2017. It makes a huge difference. Once this is understood, the rest is simple for our predicament. Stoeger Model M3500 12 Gauge Shotgun with Realtree Max-5 Stock and 28-Inch Barrel. Research into the matter revealed that I was being unrealistic. My wife actually expressed an interest in my long guns, wanting to know which ones were loaded in case she needed one. Interestingly enough, nearly everyone who shared this issue all had great experiences with Stoegers customer service getting their gun fixed. It does not misfire every time, just during competition. The only problem is the splinter fore-end means I need to wear a glove to keep from burning my left hand. Stoeger coach guns are fine for the money and are Joe Biden-approved. The barrels are even stamped "Coach Gun." The barrels are 18.5 inches, so street legal. I own the Stoeger Coach Gun from HE@#. Quantity: Buy now. Its small, its shockproof, and features the new Motion Sensor Technology which immediately turns the sight on after detecting any movement. The other thing worth noting is that Im shooting cowboy loads in this shotgun. First a little coach gun anatomy. http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/shotgu 8cg26.html, http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/shotgu 878cg.html, It is currently Wed Mar 01, 2023 12:29 pm. Stoeger is a Beretta company. The box was that light. In Forrest's first major cavalry victory, he divided his men into three groups. Action: boxlock side-by-side due to their break open simplicity and manual of arms they likewise would be ideal With the coach gun, I wasnt so much shooting doubles as I was wiling them to turn into little clouds of clay dust. The handsome and affordable single- and double-trigger scatterguns pack a potent punch. One is a workhorse and the other is a deep refined "wall. 1. But since the powerful shotguns dont have any rubber buttpads, I went with the easier to use single-triggered 20 gauge Coach. With birdshot and buckshot, the groups were also different sizes. I have taken it to a local gunsmith three times, sent it back to Stoeger, who refuses to look at it because the safety was reversed. Did you or someone else flare the chamber mouths? These hinged bits are part of the hammer cocking mechanism. Not seamless but pretty fair, certainly mass produced factory close. M. M. Wright, Sheriff, Green county Arkansas (1860). The shell extractor on this 12-gauge shotgun makes removing shells quick and easy, resulting in smoother . CAS, racing sailboats, competitive swimming, airplanes, amateur gunsmithing and some other stuff I cant remember right now, Badlands Bar 3 Dooley Gang Charter Member, Merlin Marauders - Table Rock Rangers - Hawkinsville Claim Jumpers, SASS - RO Instructor - Territorial Governor of Eldorado Cowboys, President - Eldorado Cowboys, Eldorado Cowboys, Desert Desperados, Thunder River Renegades- Brazos Rangers- Tejas Pistoleros- Dooley Gang-SBSS #2521-ROII, Rockford Sportmans Club & Wolverine Rangers. The gun I chose lists for $549. I bought a Stoeger Uplander after shooting a cousins Coach Gun at the farm. Colt pistols, Marlin rifles and old SxS's.. Hammer-spur checkering on my TTN is flat-topped, providing just the right purchase for cocking, without tearing up anything (me included). Barrel length: 20". Price: $479. I have owned both a Stoeger IGA Uplander, and a USSR made Baikal and they were both very reliable guns that I would not hesitate to recommend. Overall Rating * * * * 1/2 Posted: 6/8/2013 7:18:57 AM EST [#5] The Stoeger Coach gun is a side-by-side shotgun, chambered for both shells with 2-3/4" and 3" measurement. Whether putting these Stoegers to use in competition, home defense, or various hunting scenarios, the Coach will not disappoint. 2. Good article. Break action with 2-round capacity; If they took more time you would have to pay more money. As part of the multinational firearms conglomerate, Beretta Holding S.p.A, Stoeger Industries gets overshadowed by the more established gunmakers Beretta, Benelli, and Franchi. Eventually, it got to where it would just fall open when I pressed the lever, which is what I was looking for. Stoeger, although still relatively unknown, manufactures some of the best budget shotguns on the market, and their line of Coach Guns is something you really gotta check out. What make of shotgun shells are you using? Model: COACH GUN. This is the one bit of gun tinkering where I stopped too soon. The image on the left is the receiver and the one on the right is the forestock. Every score has been better than the previous. I also hope to try it out at a local skeet range sometime before dove season starts this fall so that I can decide whether it is as good a hunting gun as it is a cowboy gun. Also have a CZ hammer 12 gauge double. Specifications: Chokes: IC and M fixed; Sights: Brass Bead; Weight: 6.5lbs With the shotshells at 25 yards, I discovered that the right barrel shot a little high and right, whereas the left barrel patterned right down the middle. What should I do if there is a problem with the function of my Stoeger Industries firearm? With a few more matches, the gun loosened up even more, just as others had promised it would. Re: What's the go to choice for a coach gun? Nor, as it turned out, underwear, T-shirts or a pair of socks. I know this is a forum for Ruger discussion, but I've seen discussion on non-Ruger related products, so I figure this is alright. Right now, I have one at the gun smiths shop. Good gun for the money considering you could spend double or triple on a side by side shotgun. by Tommy Reb Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:01 pm, Post Now, Ive only dome maybe 5 and all for me. Most work well from the factory, some just seem to be un-repairable for some reason. Although the Supreme isnt available in .410, it does have some pretty sweet variety in its receiver/barrel finish combinations, including stainless/polished blue, polished blue, and polished nickel. Nice. I would lube it and shoot it. I got one off a fellow forumite in 20 gauge, with hammers, and 26" barrels, Mod and Imp Cyl, IIRC. It would be a bad place to find yourself at the other end of those two barrels.Love My Coachman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Thanks! But sadly, we live in an imperfect world and the Stoeger M3000 . Duh! The Stoeger Coach gun is available in the diminutive 410 gauge and makes a perfect companion to a large gauge Stoeger shotgun. I think the problem might be that the maximum amount of torque that is allowed to be applied to the bolt is 5 ft. lbs. also is there a manual for this gun? Theres a great deal to learn about Stoegers premier side by side but before we get the ball rolling on the Gunivore review of Stoeger Industries Coach Gun, check out our rundown on the past, present, and future of the entire up-and-coming Stoeger Company. I think it is an excellent value for the money. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. While I can carry shells for both critters in my 870 pump, I cannot control which critter appears first, and thus might have to try to switch ammo with the pump gun. Capacity: 2 The Stoeger Coach Gun is a lot of fun in a lightweight, easy-to-handle package. Nonetheless, the Coaches feature beautiful walnut stocks, suitable checkered grips, and simple top-tang safeties. The action is stiffer than my Browning shotguns but not horribly stiff. The Supreme's butt stock and beaver tail fore-end . I cant wait for it to get here. Not a single issue straight from the box. I found one online for $100 less (plus shipping and FFL fee) and it arrived just in time to use in the next cowboy match. I may not be the brightest bulb in the pack, but I knew pretty quick that my new shotgun was going to need some work. With that knowledge and three engineering degrees, I decided that I could slick up the shotgun myself and bypass the gunsmiths services. I broke out my Do-All trap machine, and got a box of clay targets. The steps I took included: 1. I have one of the Pedersoli La Bohemienne shotguns a beautiful gun.Pedersoli sells the Wyatt Earp short barrel coach gun version which is basically the same gun. If you're gonna be stupid ya gotta be tough-, I have been shooting a Stoeger for the last couple years. I just cut the stock, use the cut off piece as a template , rough it down on the disc sander, finish it off by hand, and Im pretty close every time. Plus, keep in mind that the safety is automatically engaged upon opening the Coachs action. I now have a $400 shotgun with $700 invested. Is the Rossi Overland a Stoeger? Sheila dont know or care about choke or an English stock , external hammers vs. internal hammers but I do . I was in a LGS the other day and I looked at coach gun-wish like all I get out I could remember the brand. by Ji in Hawaii Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:49 pm, Post In CA, this incurs another $75 FFL fee and another 10-day wait. Our price: $629.00. Enlarging the chambers Once I finished the action, I moved to the barrel, making the chambers a little larger so that shells would slide in easier and fall out with a short jerk. Sight . So I started looking at whether a coach gun would be a better option. An attractive trigger guard complements the double trigger. Due to its alliance with the Beretta Holding Group, you can bet your bottom dollar that Stoeger did not cut corners when it comes to their components quality. Stoeger is one of the last low cost SxS makers left in the world and they make a good gun for the money. Although side by sides are relatively uncommon for sporting nowadays, many folks do use the Stoeger Coach for plinking, trap, and cowboy action shooting. You could use a slip-on pad if you want to avoid grinding a pad to fit, but they look like crap, IMO. the battle cry is banzai. $4.69. Ill be pressing the grinding stone back on my chamber mouths some more in the near future until a part of the lip is gone on each chamber. Interestingly enough, nearly everyone who shared this issue all had great experiences with Stoegers customer service getting their gun fixed. The handsome and affordable single- and double-trigger scatterguns pack a potent punch. 03708431400. Also have been wanting to try Cowboy Action Shooting for quite a while, but competition of any kind gets expensive really fast. Too, Drew, Easy IF YOU know how, BUT TUFF OTHER WISE They are not cheap locally, so I bought a shotshell reloader and started loading my own light loads. Heck, go somewhere in the west where you might be able to sweet-talk a collector into showing you some genuine Wells Fargo coach guns by Parker Bros. Look at the workmanship from over 100 years ago. See if it doesn't loosen up. Stoeger Coach Gun Supreme Dual Triggers Polished Nickel 20 Ga Shotgun 20" Barrels. Ive been told that competition guns will all break at some point, usually in the middle of a match, so Im sure Ill be looking for parts eventually. Thats why youre sitting there with abrasives, polishing down rough machine finishes on a brand new gun. The longer barrels would be a better hunter. Please Note: You can not reply to other people's classified ads, it is not a problem with your account. I had trouble with it firing both barrels simultaneously..sometimes. It is a cock-on-break style, meaning that once youve fired, opening the action takes a little more effort (doesnt just fall open). What's on the current list? by Blaine Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:56 pm, Post Although the black-finished walnut stock and polished nickel receiver model is equally sexy and intimidating, I steered clear from its double trigger. Maurader has a website that addresses both the problem of Stoeger Coach Gun misfires as well as the problem of popping open. Light and handy; easy to swing on clay birds or move around corners. USSG has some decent coach style SxS shotties. I proved that sandpaper, toothpaste, and elbow grease can achieve the same effect. I hear the cowboy action guys polish up the chambers so that fired shells fall out simply with a quick jerk backwards. Coach guns are used by a lot of beginning cowboy action shooters and some of the better shooters use them at my local competitions. I felt my prejudice against the Stoeger Coach Gun slowly melting like the winter snow. Stoeger Single-Trigger Coach Guns are chambered for 2- and. Getting a good finished appearance is the other 90% of the issue. Dad and I both love that rig. Overall Length: 36,5 inches There it was: a stock and action section, forearm piece, and the barrels. If I ever find them, Ill use them lightly to make sure the chambers are smooth and even. The 1873 Colt clones are better made, but even they benefit from a tuning, since the action is essentially the same as in Colts black powder pistols. Because the Coach isnt the most ideal hunting shotgun, Stoeger provides 12 and 20 gauge owners with only fixed M and IC choke tubes, with flush and extended options available as aftermarket purchases. http://marauder.homestead.com/files/stoeger2.html. I also have a Zhongzhou Machine Works China coach gun that looks like treadhead1952s. I HAVE ALL 3 OF THE SHOTGUNS YOU DESCRIBE. Eventually, I got it to where the safety would not reset on opening. Stoeger cannot/will not repair broken lugs, so they replace the entire gun. Would it be possible to put a modified choke in the right barrel so it would shot streight? This cocks the hammers as you are opening the shotgun. Is there a diagram or instructions for changing firing pins, I have waisted enough money, http://www.longhunt.com/gunparts/stoeger.htm. The large heavy hammers make it easy to reduce the hammer springs even more. That being said, I did find one product which gives Stoeger a run for their money: Mossbergs Maverick HS12 Thunder Ranch Over/Under shotgun. It shouldnt be too difacult to find a Stoeger. About us; Sell Your Gun parts; Buy Gift Cards; Order Status; Cart; Account; . Weight (unloaded):6.5 pounds by JerryB Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:09 pm, Post The Maryland-based weapons manufacturer specializes in traditionally-build shotguns with up-to-date aesthetics and operation. With these improvements, my shotgun technique at the next match was much smoother than it had been at the previous match. on just what YOU NEED TO DO. Went boom every time. I shot that match using the shotgun pretty much straight out of the box, which turned out to be a mistake. Though, for a double triggered firearm, its pretty easy to use; Stoeger incorporated a nicely sized trigger guard with smooth curves for some added user-friendliness. Both are late 80's vintage and have been used almost exclusively in CAS (Cowboy Action Shooting) since new. The 20-inch barrels meant I could move from target to target by just twitching a little. The Coach Gun Supreme is a thing of wonder on the trap range. While the short barrel was tough to follow through with on fast crossers, it actually swung better at. I passed due to deciding the $ would be better spent on my colt AR. Ak, o ka poe hilinai aku i Ihova, e ulu hou n ko lkou ikaika; There is a fine line between hobby & obsession! If yer gonna make a wall hanger out of it.. Transitioning trigger to trigger on the Coach Gun felt light years ahead of racking the 870s pump between shots. And if I cant figure it out, one of the other cowboy shooters will be able to tell me what to do. There are guns that do certain things better. Style * * ** 1/2 Stoeger Coach Gun, $310 Our first impression of the Brazilian-made Stoeger Coach Gun was: That's more like it. Nice review, but one question left unanswered for me: how is the extraction/reloading? . by M. M. Wright Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:42 am, Post Im not much good at skeet. While there are still companies that manufactured 1897 clones, I read conflicting information about the quality of the clones and I didnt want to buy one for competition that would be older than I am. Then I started looking at free advice from the internet (worth every penny!) Each time I took off a little bit from the spring and the lock impeller, I would reinstall both to check safety function and lever pressure. Will be sending back again. Add to Cart. It took a little while to adjust to the Silverado, looking down a pair of barrels with a rib in between. E.R Amantino Coach 12 Gauge Shotgun. Rusty, grandson Jerry3 has a Stoger coach gun in 12ga and has not had any trouble with it at all.He used it when we were cowboy shooting trouble free. by all accounts they seem reasonbaly good for the price, though I'm not sure how you're looking to use these things or if you need something pricier. The Stoeger coach gun goes for about $400 ($450 at big 5 :\ ) and I've found a century arms coach gun for ~$290. Open the action and a quick yank back will usually eject the empty shells. Please PM with details, thanks! I have heard many good things about the Baikals. Fast? But it was well worth it. It broke the barrel lug after the 12 shell during break in at the trap range. Still looks great though, very traditional. The term coach gun is a generic description for a side-by-side shotgun with an 18-20 inch barrel. Barrels are well regulated. I pared a lot of wood off the fore-end, turning it into a modified splinter type. Because of its shortened barrel and intuitive controls, the Stoeger promises fast reloads and even faster pointing and swing. I use it for CAS. He has the firing pins and the wrench to change them with. Ive got a nickel-finish coach gun supreme Ive been working on (Itll still be awhile before Im shooting any SASS matches though). Big 5 in northern CA has them on sale now for $389 until 09/21/2013. Considering how many cowboys have broken Stoegers, I asked for a lemon refund. Part of the problem is this fact; the Stoeger is a very low cost gun. The other 2 have their own problems. The gun, which was way less than half the price of either of the other two, looked great, worked easily, was well balanced and well finished, opened easily, and in all respectsbut onelooked like the ideal tool for the active . I asked around, and broken barrel lugs are a very common problem, along with split stocks. Strictly for Home defense . by Ji in Hawaii Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:17 pm, Post MY COACH GUN IS SIMPLY A SHORT 2-BARREL. They also tell you to insure the gun. In Stock. My father bought a 20 ga to have for an around the house gun. Has anyone else had problems with re-assembly? Im used to firing a Remington 870 equipped with a slug barrel and rifle sights, that gets its long barrel back during dove season. Notifications . As a result of its renowned reputation and ever-growing popularity, Stoeger wanted to create a redesigned Coach for the modern tactical home-defense shooter. I think she needs one of her own. There are several manufactures of coach guns, but I decided to go with the 20-inch barrel Stoeger Coach Gun because that was the brand used by most of those I was seeing at competitions. Firing light field loads containing 7.5 shot, the Coach Guns recoil was noticeable, but not unpleasant. Plus I cant forget about the game changing fiber-optic sights. Because they wanted to stick with the classic appeal of a true Coach gun, most of their models feature the traditional double trigger. I ground off a little at a time and reinstalling it to see if I needed to grind off more. Purchased the gun for bear and wolf protection for our cabin land in Northern Saskatchewan. . Removing some of the spring makes it easier (and faster, the real reason) to open the shotgun. by 1894c Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:24 am, Post The right barrel threw a wider pattern than the left. I bought new Stoeger single trigger 12 ga. last summer when I started CAS. No sir. Although nothing to rave about, the Sightmark Ultra Shot reflex sight will get the job done. Stoeger Coach Guns single and double trigger shotguns are based on the Old West stagecoach guard's shotgun of choice. Gun Test: 1878 Hartford Coach Gun 12-Gauge Double-Barreled Shotgun With lingering thoughts of Christmas, home and family as they went about their routine chores, the Yanks were caught by surprise when Forrest mounted his attack. It was just another day of education in my journey to improve my cowboy shooting skills as I had to overcome several challenges associated with shooting a new gun. Side by side "Old West" style. Or I will have to buy a new one and start the slicking up process all over. Amantino in Brazil, the Silverado looks classy, maybe even beautiful. Stoeger sends a prepaid shipping label for warranty returns. The gun was notably stiff to open out of the box, but wore in after a couple hundred rounds. Ive been looking at the same shotgun. The new value of a STOEGER COACH GUN shotgun has risen $15.15 dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $534.39 . by Buck Elliott Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:55 pm, Post But I would certainly not be unarmed if all I had was a Stoeger Coach Gun and six spare shells. Smiths , a Browning & a Benneli and rely upon the Stoeger as a farm / ranch tool . The TTN is a 12-gauge gun, built on a "10-gauge" frame.. Have compared mine to a friend's old, original 10-gauge, 1878 Colt. by Panzercat Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:31 pm, Post More specifically, coach guns were ubiquitous in the Wild West, especially for defending stagecoaches, which is why sitting in the passenger seat became known as riding shotgun. by Griff Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:30 am, Post This is a high-class place so act respectable. Benellis signature Inertia Driven Bolt System, TLR-4 Tac Light with a built-in laser light, Mossberg Maverick 88 Review: Big Shotun, Big Value. I don't know of anyone who has had the misfire troubles with Coach Guns, and I know of two that have stood up well to fairly heavy use & hunting over a number of years. Customizing My Stoeger Coach Gun For Cowboy Action Competition, 3D Guns Will Increase Gun Violence in Heavily Gun-Controlled States, Concealed Carrier Gets Home in Time to Protect His Neighbor and Her Kids From a Violent Attacker, Federal District Court Judge Orders Illinois to Show Examples of Every Newly-Banned Firearm, SIG SAUER Announces the New SHOOT SIG Competition Shooting Program, ATF Not Amused by FFLs Attempt to Get Rid of Hundreds of Defective Shotguns. Two different chokes is a standard setup for twin-barreled shotguns. I patterned the gun with shotshells, buckshot, and slugs at distances from 25 to 40 yards. Some owners reported patterns that differed as much as three feet between the barrels. Same problem appears constantly. (My shoulders don`t like to pump my 97 without pain.). Fully functional rabbit ear hammers & double triggers. It doesn't hurt one to be left cocked for years on end or it doesn't take long to drop in a couple of rounds. This piece isnt intended to be a gun review in the classic sense of a review, especially since there is already a Stoeger Coach Gun review on TTAG. Brand: Stoeger. Always let me down on hunting trip and never on shooting range. Gonna get one. $779.00 $699.99. Put pin and trigger block in a safe place in case you want to reinstall it for resale or repairs. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. In Stock. Since getting it back still does it. Ponder what weve lost in the gun market afterwards. Just PRIOR TO YOURS. Looking to buy FTF, a Stoeger Coach gun 12ga, preference is with hammers. The current trailing twelve months (ttm) P/E ratio is 17.753 and the forward P/E ratio is 13.79. Most of the online advice recommended using a Dremel tool for cutting the spring, but I couldnt find mine due to a recent move (its since been located). In fact, many folks are faster with this double barrel than with a semi-auto. Hi guys, I just started having an issue with my new coach gun and could use help. Century calls its side-by-side 20-gauge coach gun the JW-2000. I have observed this on a couple of Stoegers and the results are not pretty. Dark-stained Walnut hardwood stock w/checkered forearm & grip. by Mescalero Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:03 pm, Post Although I really liked how the Maverick performed, I dont know if Id choose it over the Stoeger, especially since its almost $100 more. I shoot cowboy action. Everyone told me that the first thing I needed to do to the gun was shorten the impeller so that it would not engage the safety when I broke it open. Eligible for FREE shipping * Trigger Lock Lever, New . The Cimarron gun is the old TTN, just a new importer. I gave my Stoeger Coach Gun a workout last week shooting full-house, nine pellet 00 buck. The real key is not to be too aggressive and know the harness of the various parts. No problems. The falling P/E ratio is the result of future earnings increasing relative to the current price and suggests bullishness in the company by analysts. Brand: Stoeger. There are cheaper guns. Not at all . Cantankerousbastard that I am, I remained determined to dislike it. Ji, did you just say chukar hunting on MAUI??!!! Contact them either via email or private message. steel receiver. Thats 90% of the issue. It's wood isn't as pretty or fitted as good as the Stoeger but it has been very reliable. Pard of mine did much the same work as you accomplished on yours to his and hes had it serving him since 1995 in the game. Dont Shoot New York Now Why Would I Want to Do That? I even coach rifle as a sport. Its traditional double-trigger design is right at home at cowboy-action events. The photo on the left is my chamber mouth as it currently exists and the photo on the right is the chamber mouth of a champion shooters coach gun. Drew, You will find the INFORMATION your seeking in the Post Click to expand. Made by E.R. Its easy to maneuver through the house, and 12-gauge is absolutely devastating at across-the-living-room distances, even with birdshot. We have had a Coach Gun in the family since 91. I also bought some 12 to 20 GA converters in stainless steel for flexibility. I believe it is the Coach Gun Supreme, stainless receiver, blue barrels. Since Stoegers collection of Coach Guns features such high quality shotguns for affordable prices, its no easy task to compete with them. When I backed up to 40 yards, the left barrel remained in the middle, with the right barrel putting slugs about 10 inches to the high right. 3-inch shells, in 12- and 20-gauge and are offered in blued finish with. The 20-inch barrels are the longest single chunk of the gun. 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