The capital of the Iron Age kingdom of Ammon was Rabbah, which is located at modern-day Amman, Jordan. They were the ones who followed Balaams advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the Lord in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the Lords people. Numbers 31:15-16. I am interest in this reading and need to have more information about the Edomite The Church defined is the called out ones. The vassalage had existed since the reign of David (2 Samuel 8:2), but the Moabites revolted upon the death of Ahab. In the Bible, they are described as being descendants of Ben-ammi, who was the son of Lot (Abrahams nephew) and Lots younger daughter (Genesis 19:38). There is no salvation or true deliverance apart from the death of Jesus Christ, but there are a lot of counterfeits. The find, known as the Moabite Stone or Mesha Stele, was a monument bearing an inscription commemorating the c. 860 B.C. Human and Divine Spirit (1) The Human as Related with the Divine In other words, he stopped his practice of divination and when he did, "the Spirit of God came upon him" (Numbers 24:2). The kingdom of Moab stretched north and south of the Arnon River with its capital at Dibon. Now Moabite raiders used to enter the country every spring. I am sorry that I am about 5 years too late to join this discussion.but I can add to the dispute about the colour of Esau who is described red.and, more importantly, of the colour of JESUS. We try to please God without taking time to walk with Him and develop a relationship with Him. We now have a fuller picture of their kings, gods and daily life. The land of Moab was sandwiched between two other nations, their brother tribe of Ammon in the north, and Edom in the south (descendants of Jacobs brother Esau). Burton, Judd H. "Chemosh: Ancient God of Moabites." In summary, Mesha realized that Chemosh waited to restore Moab in his day, for which Mesha was grateful to Chemosh. So the Moabites are analogous to those enemies who stand as a threat to our walk with God and our devotion to Him. And all who were able to put on armor and older were summoned, and stood on the border. Ruth. Nothing is too small or too great for Him to handle. Either way, Scripture does reference the city of Zoar as a Moabite city (Jeremiah 48:34). The Moabite king rationalized this would appease his god and deliver his city. By way of application, two things should be noted here: First, failure to follow through on the principles and imperatives of Scripture have negative consequences. The work of Jesus Christ, the Son of the living God, came to change the emphasis from races to believers. The large inscription he left behind is the longest Moabite text. And the same spirit that was in Balaam is working everywhere against the Jewish people again. The Israelites, and presumably their allies with them, invaded Moab, slaughtered the people, destroyed many towns, and did to the fields, springs, and trees what God had instructed (cf. Had Elishas instructions been carried out, these later attacks may have been avoided.36. the word Jewish has ish as it suffix which I believe means ,2 be like but not the true.also TMH says once HE redeems us and we r back in the land promised 2 our ancestors, the strangers that will cling 2 us can b considered a Hebrew after the 3rd generation is born n the land n all generations b4 n after take hold of HIS covenant. The Second Instruction and Responsibility of the Armies (vs. 19). The article has many errors in it & lies about the origin of Ammon & Moab. One was Moab, who is the father of the Moabites, and the other was Ben-Ammi, who is the father of the Ammonites. God granted Lots request and spared the city of Zoar (which was set to be judged with all the other wicked cities). By looking at what these ancient peoples wrote and left behind, we are able to better understand their perspective. In this passage we see the extreme consequences of idolatry, but the principle is the same--wrong relations with God (indifference to Him) always leads to wrong relations with people--family, friends, neighbors, etc.--and many other frightful and degrading sins. Chemosh: Ancient God of Moabites. Ruth the Moabite #6. Naomi said to her, "Go ahead, my daughter." 3 So she went out, entered a field and began to glean behind the harvesters. The book of Genesis purports to depict where the Moabites, Ammonites, and Edomites came from and in all 3 cases their origins are depicted in an ignoble fashion. Ruth demonstrated incredible virtue as she pledged her loyalty to Naomi and acknowledged YHWH as her God (Ruth 1:16-17). this is not the case. This was significant because the Emim were like the Anakim, the people the Israelites had feared when they scouted the Promised Land (Numbers 13:33). Bible Artifacts Found Outside the Trench: The Moabite Stone. But the tides are shifting. 29 NIV Study Bible Notes, Zondervan Publishing, electronic version 2.5. ch 7 v 12 ( and elsewhere,) tells us that JESUS shall be of the seed of DAVIDNOT a descendant of David years later.. James 3:13-18. In its place it seeks deliverance and religious experiences on its own without Gods Word and the Christ of Scripture. He simply did not take the Lord for granted. Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, Jebusites, Amorites, termites, oh my! of Romans 2:29 The book of Deuteronomy chapter32 explains whats going on today false religions and doctrines entertainment false ungodly court system passing same sex laws which is a abomination unto THE LORD and forcing the people to accept it giving rights to the lbgt community modern day Sodom and Gomorrah practicing idol worshipping in all churches bowing to false images especially to that false image of THE LORD worshipping statues in wood and stone wearing crosses when THE LORD was crucified on a tree its all pagan worshipping celebrating their false holy days which they call them holidays GOD forbid all roads lead to Rome all religions are false set-up by Rome to control the people and take their money brainwashing you telling you that THE LORD loves everyone and HE died for everyone when HE died for only HIS people read revelation chapter21 verse 12 it tells you who the kingdom of heaven is for my people the 12 tribes of the children of Israel thats why they banned the bible from school so they can teach false history in their false education system with their false science trying to prove that THE MOST HIGH doesnt exist the education system is ran by atheists staging false wars to steal other countries land and resources Esau is doing a good job at it calling himself the government so that no one can get the blame cops killing Hebrew Israelites and justify it thats called murder the bible says aint nothing new under the sun the task masters back then had whips and chariots move further into the future they rode horses carried a gun and whips today they have police cars a gun and tasers just follow the eagle the Sunday law is coming soon also forcing you worship their false religions and gods THE LORD day is on Saturday not the first day of the week you will know that its not of THE LORD because HE doesnt force you to do anything its called free will to make a choice. They were the perennial thorn in the flesh and at various times would wage war against the Israelites. As we have seen, Jeroboam was faced with one of those testings of life God uses to get our attention, correct our path, and draw us to Himself, but rather than turn to the Lord, Jeroboam sought help in his own strategy of a human alliance with King Jehoshaphat of Judah, and the king of Edom. The Moabites were a pagan nation, which means they did not worship or serve YHWH. Auberst, Inc. These three things should call us to pray for our enemies, the same people who are enemies of Christ. Their ruling line ended due to their lack of faith and sin. Dig into more than 9,000 articles in the Biblical Archaeology Societys vast library plus much morewith an All-Access pass. So in chapter 5 the Apostle points them to the need for walking by means of the Spirit as the means of Christ formed in one's life, the fruit of the Spirit. africans (indigenous hamites) are NOT israelites. Your email address will not be published. The Moabites fell back in disarray as far as Kir Hareseth, where they determined to make a final stand.32. But we can be moral and religious, even busy in Gods work and yet be anything but godly. Mythologists and other scholars suggest that such activity may be due to the fact the Chemosh and other Canaanite gods such as the Baals, Moloch, Thammuz, and Baalzebub were all personifications of the sun or the sun's rays. In fact, defeat in battle was regarded by pagan Near Eastern warriors as a sign that their gods were angry with them. Ruth 2:1-13. Chemosh seems to have also had a taste for blood. The edomites are definitely the so called white people. How much of Genesis is political propaganda designed to disenfranchise the indigenous people who were there before the Israelites who coveted the land showed up and waged war for it? Eventually, word reached Naomi the Lord had given food in the land of Judah, so she decided to return to her homeland. Dig into the illuminating world of the Bible with a BAS All-Access membership. Idolatry which has its source in the demonic powers of Satan, a murderer and hater of mankind, often included human sacrifice, especially the offering of children. King David and eventually Jesus came through the family lineage carried by Ruth. However, after the death of King Ahab, King Mesha rebelled and stopped paying his tribute. For some other illustrations of this principle in Scripture, compare the following: Joshua 1:5 Just as I have been with Moses, I will be with you; I will not fail you or forsake you (emphasis mine). Moab (/ m o b /) is the name of an ancient Levantine kingdom whose territory is today located in the modern state of Jordan.The land is mountainous and lies alongside much of the eastern shore of the Dead Sea.The existence of the Kingdom of Moab is attested to by numerous archaeological findings, most notably the Mesha Stele, which describes the Moabite victory over an unnamed son of . And the point is all three of these focus on God. Mesha made it clear that he understood Chemosh's anger and the reason he allowed the Moabites to fall under the rule of Israel. Despite the strange nature of Moab's birth and the development of his people, history records many important insights regarding his legacy. In his notes, Ryrie says, The Israelites were so frightened at what an aroused Moabite army might do that they retreated.35 Most commentaries, however, see the wrath as a reference to a stunning indignation over such a gross act that it caused the three armies to go home. Victory would be theirs if they were obedient to their human responsibilities of digging the ditches. Balak followed Balaam's advice, and Israel fell into sin, worshiping Baal of Peor and committing fornication with Midianite women. The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab; he is the father of the Moabites of today. Genesis 19:36-37. Proud member The vinyl reissue of 'Play' is available to pre-order now: http://moby.la/playandbsidesYo Official audio for Spirit by Moby, released on Mute Records. Moabite Stone (Mesha Stele) The Moabite Stone is a priceless source of information concerning Chemosh. (And then fantasy takes over !!) In his article Ammon, Moab and Edom: Gods and Kingdoms East of the Jordan, published in the November/December 2016 issue of Biblical Archaeology Review, Joel S. Burnett examines the incredible archaeological discoveries from Ammon, Moab and Edom. Godliness, as stressed previously, consists of taking God seriously. For example, the Jewish custom of the Ketuba in marriage is apparently of Edomite origin In 1868, an archaeological find at Dibon provided scholars with more clues to the nature of Chemosh. Godsredemptive plans have always been open toall people, not just the direct descendants of Abraham (Genesis 17:12; Exodus 12:48-49). Additionally, "many times, there is impromptu giving when directed by the Spirit." . As mentioned above in the Evangelical Commentary, the failure of the alliance to complete the destruction opened the way for later attacks. He offers his people the forgiveness of sin and restores them to intimate relationship. Or is he a fictional character who had the Birthright yet forfeited it for the sake of a bowl of soup, thereby making Jacob/Israel the inheritor of the Birthright? The point I make here is that a description of DAVID is given. Who were the Ammonites, Moabites and Edomites in the Bible? Idolatry was one of the innate characteristics of all the nations surrounding Israel, and Chemosh was the national god of the Moabites ( Numbers 21:29 ). But how was this seduction accomplished? So verse 18b immediately gives the promise, He shall also give the Moabites into your hand. In this we see the as so concept of Scripture. If you put this in modern language, Moab was in a unique position that his father and grandfather were the same person. The Word of God is His training manual which focuses us on God and brings devotion to Him. Spirit of Ishmael. King Eglon was one of the Moabite rulers during the time of the judges. There he tells us that the life of Israel and Gods dealings with the nation are full of spiritual analogies and illustrations of spiritual truth for the church today. IF you read and believe the Bible !! If you have never studied these people here are eight things to know about the Moabites. We plant seeds that affect what kind of person we're growing into and the level of impact our life will have for the Lord. i think you need to get more info on what youre trying to cast doubt on before you make mistakes like the one you have made here. But how is such a devotion to God, a God-focused mental attitude developed? The "flesh" is the part of us that wants to live and act independently of God. 19 Then you shall strike every fortified city and every choice city, and fell every good tree and stop all springs of water, and mar every good piece of land with stones., People often think of godliness in terms of moral living (behavior) and religious living--keeping the Ten Commandments, or the Beatitudes, or keeping a set of dos and donts, or going through the motions of religious rituals. God said that Israel will not be one until his second coming. Moabites. The thing we know about the Moabites, even from very early on in Israels history, is when Israel violated what God instructed and intermingled with the Moabites, they turned their hearts astray. Titus 1:1 Paul, a bond-servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, for the faith of those chosen of God and the knowledge of the truth which is according to godliness . Such blessings of grace only come through the Lord Jesus Christ (cf. Who are the Moabites? Not by accident, but by the providence and the grace of God, Elisha, a man for all seasons, just happened to be in the area. The Moabites were among the people who would lead Israel astray. fled before the Israelites. igbo and the some other tribes arent african. This means the Moabites and the Israelites are technically cousins. Balaam, a prophet from Mesopotamia, was willing to use his God-given talents for illicit purposes. The horror and consternation upon seeing this sacrifice causes the three armies to withdraw rather than to wipe out such evil and desecration of children. He could not curse Israel directly, so he came up with a plan for Israel to bring a curse upon themselves. One of the most notable is the depiction of an Edomite goddess wearing a three-horned headdress from the site of Qitmit, Israel. Chemosh was the national deity of the Moabites whose name most likely meant "destroyer," "subduer," or "fish god." Moabs beginning was different from most and the Moabites were part of Israels story but most of the time not in a good way. Wearing a three-horned headdress, this Edomite goddess figurine was discovered at Horvat Qitmit. He is described as fair..(blond), tall (enough to try on Sauls armour..who was the tallest man amongst Israel(That is not necessarily hereditary but an indication).and -being fair couldnt be confused as either being of middle-eastern colour OR African colourI humbly suggest.. You see, if one insists on an incarnation instead of JESUS being a man..chosen from amongst the Brethren ( Deut. I say so called because they arent really white, they are different shades of red. This time, the Lord allowed King Eglon to rise to power and, as judgment, He brought Israel under the rule of the Moabites. Found in 2 Kings 3, King Mesha lived during the split reign of Judah and Israel. rodd. In 2 Kings 3:27 we find that human sacrifice was part of the rites of Chemosh. Descendants of Moab the son of Lot, Genesis 19:30-38.The land of Moab lay east and southeast of the Dead Sea, and chiefly south of the river Arnon. . The Israelites who came through the line of Isaac were the people of Gods promise. Deuteronomy 28:15-68 are the curses that God put upon those people. There can be no godliness, no devotion to God, no deliverance, no ability to find Gods will, etc. Alex you ignored completely Numbers 1:18 Ezras 2:59 hence making Herod full Edom. Required fields are marked *, COPYRIGHT 2023 BIBLICAL ARCHAEOLOGY SOCIETY 5614 Connecticut Ave NW #343, Washington DC 20015-2604. At one period, however, it extended north as far as the Jabbok, and for a long time the region beyond the Jordan opposite Jericho retained the name of "the plains of Moab," Numbers 22:1 De 1:5 29:1 Jos 13:32. In Jesus , The Father & The Holy Spirit we pray . Balaam, who taught the Moabites how to cause Israel to stumble, is mentioned three times in the New Testament as a warning to us (2 Pet. They can even tell you where the 12 tribes are. It begins with a man named Elimelech, his wife Naomi, and their two sons who traveled to the land of Moab because famine had consumed the land of Judah. This stresses the completeness of Gods provision against the enemies of His people if they will simply appropriate His provision and be obedient to His Word. The Counter Decree: Esthers Connection to the Gospel Series. Wrath is the Hebrew q#x#P, can mean indignation and in this context even righteous indignation. Against, the Hebrew preposition u^l, above, upon, against, beside, concerning, over, could be used with a word like wrath, indignation to express great feelings of emotion by emphasizing the person or persons who are the subject of the emotion and who feel the emotion acting upon them, i.e., great indignation came upon Israel, they were appalled by this act so much so they turned and went home--stunned. "Elisha died and was buried. discovery in. HE did not excluded any one ppl or race.and by the way it is also known that Hebrews are born n2 a.bloodline n u cannot bcum a Hebrew by conversion but u can bcum a jew.interesting. 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