They targeted NPR. Prince took on the role of celebrity pitchman, according to interviews and documents, raising money for Mr. Seddons spying operation, which was aimed at gathering dirt that could discredit politicians and activists in several states. Several of them confirmed their donations. McMaster was thwarting the president's agenda - right? zoneId = '3'; And it would - you know, and make an enormous amount of money. And they stopped the - they would actually stop the operatives in a car. I also think that - I think recently, too, O'Keefe, did a photo op or made a video with Donald Trump. Prince a former C.I.A. Prince might have approached for money for Mr. Seddons venture besides Ms. Gore. Other Project Veritas employees on the emails include Joe Halderman, an award-winning former television producer who in 2010 pleaded guilty to trying to extort $2 million from the comedian David Letterman. While he has not been actively involved in Wyoming politics specifically, Prince comes from a political family he is the brother of U.S. Education Secretary Betsy DeVos and is an active political donor. It was unclear whether Mr. Seddon was involved in planning that operation. But I didn't reveal that I knew Beau and Sofia had lived at that house at the time because we were working - concurrently, we were working on this larger story about them. What was this about? Erik Prince, founder of private security contractor Blackwater and brother of former Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, recruited a former British spy in 2016 to professionalize the undercover. He did not respond to follow-up phone messages or an email. The Times previously reported that, in 2016 and 2017, Mr. Prince appears to have become interested in using former spies to train Project Veritas operatives in espionage tactics sometime during the 2016 presidential campaign. - trying to find, you know, damaging information on, you know, on political rivals, you know, using, you know, private investigative firms. To do so would potentially reveal the sources identity, in breach of a promise of confidentiality made to the source, and creating personal risk for the source, they wrote, adding Princes real motive in bringing this lawsuit obtaining the identity of [The Intercepts] confidential source is plain., Further, if Prince is allowed to take discovery of The Intercept, the lawyers say they should be allowed to probe Princes ties to Virginia versus Wyoming, since he already has been forced to admit [his sworn statements] contained certain falsehoods.. That's a strawman campaign donation. They were, in fact, going to use a former Project Veritas operative named Tarah Price, who lives in the Dallas area, to, you know, possibly ensnare McMaster at a restaurant, get him to say something ill toward or maybe negative about Trump, something that would compromise him. O'Keefe writes about it in his book. officer who went on to win an important House seat in Virginia as a Democrat. They'd been recruited and trained in an operation led by a former British spy and security contractor Erik Prince, an avid supporter of Donald Trump. //]]>-->. The parties are currently awaiting a ruling from Judge Johnson, who could choose to allow the case to proceed in Wyoming; permit some more limited fact-gathering about the appropriate jurisdiction; transfer the case to New York; or throw it out entirely. And GOLDMAN: Involving Roy Moore - exactly. Reached by phone, Ms. Halverson said: Frankly, I have nothing to say on the subject. She then hung up. So he's certainly moved in this world before. Funneling money surreptitiously to campaigns through other donors known as straw man donations would violate federal campaign finance laws. "He's a very nice man," Prince said of Barrasso in the Breitbart interview. What did they show? Erik Prince, the former head of Blackwater Worldwide and the brother of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, has at times served as an informal adviser to Trump administration officials. She was involved in that. And he comes from a wealthy, conservative family in Michigan, right? They were critical of Donald Trump and his agenda. Project Veritas tax filings list Mr. Halderman as a project manager.. - not one expose every year. Sofia is from Maryland. James OKeefe, the head of Project Veritas, last year at a White House social media summit. 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Prince noted he owned a home in Wyoming and had been connected to the state since 1992. And we actually - I, you know, I - Mark and I reached out to our - one of great political reporters, Jonathan Martin, and asked him, you know. And this is FRESH AIR. Richard Seddon, in 2018, I guess, decided to stop working with Project Veritas. GOLDMAN: It's not clear to me. I knew something was off immediately. WASHINGTON A British former spy recruited by Erik Prince, the security contractor close to the Trump administration, played a central role in a secretive effort to hire dozens . He owns a home on a lot adjoining his familys Double E Ranch in Wapiti. We are speaking with Adam Goldman. DAVIES: Right. I'm Dave Davies, in for Terry Gross, who's off this week. And they were deeply critical of Trump. There was a year-long lease that was signed that allowed Project Veritas to put its operatives in that fancy house. I mean, if the idea was to get inside information, which would be useful to, you know, Republicans and conservatives, did they succeed? - and, you know, that probably in terms of, you know, Iran - not pulling out of the agreement with Iran, the JCPOA, and, you know, McMaster, you know, wanting to keep, I guess, troops in Afghanistan. Is this stuff a crime? Good stuff, Mr. Seddon wrote back. I'm not sure that just because he's a conservative, this is something he wanted to help. Overall, how do conservatives regard Project Veritas? But they thanked us for bringing, you know, putting some sunlight on this. So it was a fascinating moment in time last year when I realized what I suspected Beau and Sofia were doing. DAVIES: Did any of these result in resignations, firings, criminal investigations GOLDMAN: You know, and in the end, the people who were involved, I think, were, you know, slightly humiliated. GOLDMAN: Yeah. Mr. Seddon owns a cabin that he keeps stocked with guns, food and other supplies as preparation for a cataclysmic event in the United States. They were undercover conservative operatives, the paper discovered, who had been trained at a ranch belonging to Blackwater founder Erik Prince by a former MI6 officer with ties to the right-wing . She said the support she got from other teams was 'overwhelming. DAVIES: This is FRESH AIR. Months later, in June 2019, a report said we are expecting a big haul, including new lines of intelligence on the Republican side of the house.. A local farmer was utilizing the land to grow corn and soybean crops, but the potential for the ranch was far from being realized. GOLDMAN: She was very active. But I think - you would think that Democrats and Republicans would all be united, that this is a bipartisan issue, right? The training was done by a guy - a lot of the training was done by a guy named Richard Seddon, S-E-D-D-O-N. Who is he? A former British spy and Republican mega-donor Erik Prince, a founder of the private military contractor Blackwater (now rebranded as "Academi) and brother to former U.S. Education Secretary. Over two years, Mr. Seddons undercover operatives also developed networks in Colorado and Arizona, and made thousands of dollars in campaign donations posing as Democrats, both to the Democratic National Committee and individual campaigns. Prince a former C.I.A. In early 2017, Prince reportedly welcomed James OKeefe and others from the conservative group Project Veritas, which describes itself as an army of guerrilla journalists. That February, OKeefe tweeted an image of himself taking aim with a silenced handgun amid snowy mountains, saying the team was undergoing intense training from a classified location as we make Project Veritas the next great intelligence agency. The Intercept ultimately identified the site as the Prince ranch in a 2019 article. This includes participating in marches or rallies in support of a movement or giving money to, or raising money for, any political candidate or election cause. He comes in late '16 or '17 - around that time period. Neither party wants to be infiltrated like this. Anyone can read what you share. The website for Mr. OKeefes coming wedding listed Donald Trump Jr. as an invited guest. GOLDMAN: What - the training they got was when they worked for an outfit called Project Veritas. DAVIES: Right. And, you know, these were - they were not really long-term operations. (Last week, Trump pardoned the four Blackwater guards who were convicted of crimes in connection with the killings in Baghdad.). Is he actually providing those kinds of services? But if the case was transferred to New York, that states laws could apply. That's how you found them, and that's what raised the question? Comments ( 40) Last week, the New York Times reported that Erik Prince is considering running to represent Wyoming in the United States Senate. This is when there was the special Senate election in Alabama, right? #Veritas pic.twitter.com/4IFvjKurGK, In the pending defamation case, Princes attorneys have cited that reporting as evidence The Intercept knew Prince did his business from Wyoming, going as far as to allege the articles unstated focus was on Princes reputation and livelihood in Wyoming., The Intercept attorneys, however, pointed to past statements from Prince and records indicating he lives in Virginia. DAVIES: They targeted ACORN. DAVIES: Adam Goldman is a Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter for The New York Times. And they targeted a reporter, a Washington - a very good Washington Post reporter named Stephanie McCrummen, who - they picked up on it very, very, very quickly GOLDMAN: And figured out that this woman was not who she said she was. So they were interviewing people who wanted to become operatives. And they admitted doing, you know - engaging in political activity while working for these government institutions, which Project Veritas asserted was, you know, wrong or even, you know - I can't remember if they said it was illegal or not. Prince, a contractor close to the Trump administration, contacted veteran spies for operations by Project Veritas, the conservative group known for conducting stings on news organizations and other groups. If you are a current print subscriber, you can set up a free web account by clicking here. I have always understood him to be a resident of Northern Virginia, the lead writer of The Intercepts April story, Matthew Cole, wrote in a declaration. Were just trying to hold them accountable for this industrial espionage.. They provide additional insight into the ambition of the operation to use undercover operatives to target Republicans seen as insufficiently conservative, as well as to, as one document describes it, research, penetrate and infiltrate the radical left networks.. And they targeted - Project Veritas had a whole series. It was Maria (ph). But when I learned about Beau and Sofia last year - there's a website, Project Veritas Exposed. DAVIES: But the idea was that these public officials or FBI agents were secretly - they were part of the deep state. They make significant political contributions, right? WASHINGTON Erik Prince, the security contractor with close ties to the Trump administration, has in recent years helped recruit former American and British spies for secretive. (Photo: Gerry Broome/AP) MIDDLEBURG, Va. A cheery fire warmed the glass-walled conservatory of the Goodstone Inn in Virginia's. And they said, well, you know, she worked for Project Veritas. Of course. GOLDMAN: It's my understanding that they met during a training at the Prince ranch in Wyoming in the spring of '17 and then grew closer over time. So what I'm saying is from Richard Seddon's standpoint, the fact that she had a picture up on Project Veritas Exposed, that was a real risk they were taking, right? That's a name some people will know. In particular, you know, Sofia targeted a employee with the GAO. So there has been - the two have interacted, I think, even before Trump was president. DAVIES: Wow. Prince turned to Mr. Seddon to help train the Project Veritas operatives. Back in December, county commissioners approved a rezoning request for a multi-billionaire to develop an exclusive guest ranch in the southernmost part of the Greater Yellowstone ecosystem. Ms. Jorge was eventually exposed and kicked out of the campaign office. Prince said he wanted the Project Veritas employees to learn skills like how to recruit sources and how to conduct clandestine recordings, among other surveillance techniques. Now, you mentioned Project Veritas. Their names are Beau Maier and Sofia LaRocca, and they're in Las Vegas for a Democratic primary debate. Erik Prince, founder of the private security firm Blackwater, filed a defamation lawsuit against The Intercept last month over an article published in 2020 that examined his efforts to sell. The next year, during a presidential debate with Hillary Clinton, Mr. Trump claimed without substantiation that videos released by Mr. OKeefe showed that Mrs. Clinton and President Barack Obama had paid people to incite violence at rallies for Mr. Trump. Erik Prince, a political novice and former Navy SEAL who made a fortune in contracting security services to the U.S. Military, said in an interview with Breitbart that he will announce in the coming weeks whether he will challenge Barrasso in the Republican primary. On Sept. 30, Prince personally visited the Park County Elections Office, registered and cast a general election ballot, according to the clerks office. And they thought McMaster had fired, you know, several people who the president had brought on and - or Mike Flynn, his former - his first national security adviser had brought on. What does that tell us about Erik Prince? People have probably heard of this organization. DAVIES: So an active player in the Trump world. In 2018, an operative working for Project Veritas infiltrated the campaign of Abigail Spanberger, who went on to win a congressional seat. Mr. This includes participating in marches or rallies in support of a movement or giving money to, or raising money for, any political candidate or election cause. Ms. Jorge, 25, did not respond to email addresses associated with her Liberty University account. But (laughter) this seemed to be the training out in Wyoming. He is married to an American diplomat, Alice Seddon, who is serving in the American consulate in Lagos, Nigeria. Prince declined to comment. They used a code name LibertyU for their operative inside the organization, Marisa Jorge, who graduated from Liberty University in Virginia, one of the nations largest Christian colleges. contractor who is best known as the founder of the private military firm Blackwater and whose sister, Betsy DeVos, was Mr. Trumps education secretary has drawn scrutiny over the years for Blackwaters record of violence around the world and his subsequent ventures training and arming foreign forces. GOLDMAN: Yes. Mr. Seddon was a longtime British intelligence officer who served around the world, including in Washington in the years after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. Last month, Project Veritas made public secretly recorded video of a longtime ABC News correspondent who was critical of the networks political coverage and its emphasis on business considerations over journalism. You mentioned that he was recruited by Erik Prince. GOLDMAN: Well, they - you know, they - Beau is from Cody, Wyo., so he had some Wyoming roots. GOLDMAN: Well, I don't know if he is primarily the guy. if (document.context) document.write ("&context=" + escape(document.context)); And his son - he brought his son, who was a former army officer, on board to help. So flesh out the picture a bit. Sofia makes a contribution - a small contribution to a woman she had befriended who ran, unsuccessfully, for the Wyoming state legislature. DAVIES: But Sofia was just - she was active. And they will attend their rival's news conferences, public events and gather information. WASHINGTON Erik Prince, the security contractor with close ties to the Trump administration, has in recent years helped recruit former American and British spies for secretive intelligence-gathering operations that included infiltrating Democratic congressional campaigns, labor organizations and other groups considered hostile to the Trump agenda, according to interviews and documents. The Intercept, however, wants the complaint dismissed. Mr. Reaching out to several intelligence veterans and occasionally using Mr. Seddon to make the pitch Mr. But we were unaware of that. Even if it is true that Prince now genuinely considers himself a Wyoming resident, it cannot be said that [The Intercept] could fairly anticipate being [hauled] into court in Wyoming, the attorneys wrote in a September filing. At the time, Prince was exploring the possibility of mounting a Republican primary challenge to incumbent U.S. Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo. Erik Prince, Betsy DeVos's brother, is also deeply steeped in far-right militancy. GOLDMAN: Project Veritas is founded by James O'Keefe. State records show Moyock Medical Supplies was formed in Wyoming by an associate of Princes on April 15 two days after The Intercept published its article. Prince said he regularly host[s] customers, investors, employees and other business associates at my Wyoming ranch.. GOLDMAN: That's a good question. For instance, Princes 2014 memoir said he splits his time between homes in Virginia and Abu Dhabi, where he pursues a variety of business ventures.. And it all kind of went south when the Post exposed it. In a YouTube video, Mr. OKeefe described the lawsuit as frivolous and pointed to a portion of the deposition in which David Hecker, the president of AFT Michigan, said that one of the goals of the lawsuit was to stop Project Veritas from doing the kind of work that it does., Randi Weingarten, the president of the American Federation of Teachers, said in a statement: Lets be clear who the wrongdoer is here: Project Veritas used a fake intern to lie her way into our Michigan office, to steal documents and to spy and they got caught. This is FRESH AIR. These two are conservatives, right? He added, With Trump getting 70 percent of the vote, it shows how the Democrats have been able to control our elections with putting on a Republican coat., Mr. Gordon took office in January 2019. "He is not registered in Park County or [Wyoming] presently, unless he is not going by Erik Dean Prince and has changed his name," Park County Elections Deputy Pat Cole said in a Sept. 17 email; he said Prince hadn't voted in Wyoming since 2000. According to Prince, the tech adviser determined that the emails were not authentic.. The group has also become intertwined with the political activities of Mr. Trump and his family. Prince also allowed Project Veritas to use his familys Wyoming ranch for training. So we had never seen something like that. It is unclear how many potential donors Mr. Seddon left the project in 2018, before O'Keefe started releasing low-impact "unmasking the deep state" videos. You know, they targeted the teachers unions. And by the way, as we began reporting this, we started learning more about Beau's connection to people. var m3_u = (location.protocol=='https:'? DAVIES: So he is the guy who hires this British spy, Richard Seddon, to train operatives to, you know, gather intelligence from, you know, Democrats and progressives. So while Times staff members may vote, they are not allowed to endorse or campaign for candidates or political causes. And they - you know, I think they - it seemed like they were seeking revenge. Both operations were run by Project Veritas, a conservative group that has gained attention using hidden cameras and microphones for sting operations on news organizations, Democratic politicians and liberal advocacy groups. For example, the co-authors of the piece in dispute, Cole and Alex Emmons, say theyre New York and Washington, D.C., residents whove never been to Wyoming. DAVIES: Now, one of the more well-known operations - because, well, you reported on this - was an effort to embarrass Trump's national security adviser, H.R. They - you know, there's a wide range of targets, and many of them have been exposed. [I] was a Wyoming resident for many years,, That same day Oct. 9, 2017 Prince obtained a Wyomings drivers license, which he touted, In early 2017, Prince reportedly welcomed James OKeefe and others from the conservative group Project Veritas, which describes itself as an army of guerrilla journalists. That February, OKeefe tweeted an image of himself taking aim with a silenced handgun amid snowy mountains, saying the team was undergoing intense training from a classified location as we make Project Veritas the next great intelligence agency. The Intercept ultimately, Other outlets, however, have continued writing about the contractor. And ultimately, it did blow up in their face. You know, O'Keefe has clearly raised a lot of money, you know, millions of dollars. And her picture wasn't her name GOLDMAN: It was a fake name, Maria. Prince declined to comment. If Judge Johnson concludes he lacks jurisdiction to hear the case in Wyoming, Princes attorneys say the suit should be transferred to the Southern District of New York, where The Intercept is based. But the effort is a glimpse of a vigorous private campaign to try to undermine political groups or individuals perceived to be in opposition to Mr. Trumps agenda. How Times reporters cover politics. Wyoming is not the place for security contractor Erik Prince to sue a New York-based publication, a federal judge says. This is FRESH AIR. DAVIES: We need to take a break here. Mr. DAVIES: That's an airport in Cody, Wyo. You'd have to ask Mr. O'Keefe. This couple, Beau and Sofia - they spent real time and effort trying to ingratiate themselves with Democrats and progressives. And then I started Googling them and doing some research on them. And Beau eventually divorced his wife. He passed away recently. Read more about the operation and its cast of characters at The New York Times. The New York Times published an article chronicling a Wapiti, Wyoming-based espianoge effort. New details reveal the ambitions of an operation intended to infiltrate opponents of Donald Trump, including moderate Republicans as well as progressives and Democrats. They received training for covert operations at a ranch near Cody owned by Blackwater founder Erik Prince, where Maier's mother works as a cook. Prince, the former head of Blackwater Worldwide and the brother of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, has at times served as an informal adviser to Trump administration officials. Do we know? And then they married last week. And, you know, we've talked to people who have given to them, including people who gave smaller donations - right? WASHINGTON During the summer of 2018, as Richard Seddon, a former British spy, was trying to launch a new venture to use undercover agents to infiltrate progressive groups, Democratic campaigns and other opponents of President Donald J. 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